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bond denominated in the strongest currency in the world, the euro, paying 5.5%? i'll take spain over the united states at this point any day. >> all right. >> so don't agree at all. do not agree at all. look, retail sales in spain are down 9.7% year-over-year. they're seeing the biggest bank run in spain the globe has seen since the great depression. youth unemployment in spain is 55%. there is not a good reason to own spanish bonds here. [ overlapping speakers ] >> last time we were on together you were saying the world was going to end because greece was going to default and leave the euro. it's all over. europe's fine. just give it a break. that was last year's story. [ overlapping speakers ] >> europe is not fine. spain is in significantly worse position. they've taken on more debt into deteriorating economy. you tell me how that translates to this has all been fixed and this is all solved. it's not solved at all. [ overlapping speakers ] >> spain has about the same debt to gdp ratio as germany. that good enough for you? >> [ overlapping speakers ] >> hang on, fellows. let's not
. >> it is a rare thing for you. hang around long enough, it will go your way. thanks for that. >> cheers. >>> spain. the treasury is setting up three, seven, and ten-year bonds. they're now pre-funding for 2013. we've got the results of that in around about 30 minutes. >>> and china and india secretary growth slowed in november. analysts say china and india's nonmanufacturing team expected to improve thanks to a hiring boost in the mainland as well as strong new orders in india. at the same time, china's new leadership, as we pointed out, has laid out some fresh directives. >> these are some pretty sweeping reforms making china's famously inefficient bureaucracy more efficient. it's an effort to "win the confidence and the support of the people" as public backlash rose against the special treatment of politicians. so a new list of dos and don't's for chinese leaders. on the do side, cut down on giving face. the art of extreme flattery or reverence, which results in some very long meetings and speeches. keep them short and cut down on the lavish feasts. he's also encouraging more travel to rural par
. and, of course, it is recognized. >> what's your view on spain? the country managed to avoid bailout so far, but will not meet its deficit target for the full year. do you think spain should be given more time? >> well, first of all, i think that, again, spain is going in the right direction. when you look at the current account, the deficit, you see that it had been diminished massively since the peak that they had in 2008, 2009. and, you know, as a very short summing up, it's been divided by more than five, though it's very, very encouraging. on the other hand, you have unit labor costs which have been diminishing quite a lot and the exports of spain are very dynamic today. so it also demonstrates that hard work is being done. it's difficult. it's tough, but going in the right direction. i trust that the global observers are observing progressively and the adjustment is proceed. in spain and in all the countries that are under adjustment. >> now, lonmin's ceo ian farmer is stepping down while being treated for a serious illness after being first admitted to hospital back in august.
. >> exactly. the jobless rate in spain, don, this year topped 25%, so many people are still struggling. that being said, though, spirits will -- were lifted, and many people had a reason to line their pockets. the lottery, it's the largest lottery in spain, and it's literally translates to the big fat one, elgordo, and spain paid out $2.2 billion to thousands of winners, and you have young children who read out the numbers, which we saw on the video before, and it's really - read out the numbers and it lifts a lot of spirits especially in a time where they have been hit with economic hardship. >> maybe that would help. >> winning the lottery. >> i watched "miracle on 34th street" except i don't like the colorized version. i like the black and white. bah humbug. don scrooge. sorry. maybe when dsanta comes i'll fel better. >>> a year ago he blew out a knee and his career was in jeopardy. now he's chasing an nfl record and one of the year's most inspiring comebacks. a sports story you have to hear about next. and then treats day after day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get
an eye on it, it is falling a little bit. 1.95% after a soft set of uk retail sales figures. spain, italy, moving higher, but not too much of a move there. 5.3%. and 4.4 for italy. now, forex rates, the euro/dollar and the yen has been in focus still in the last several trading sessions and that continues today. 1.3230 is the level. the yen, though, is giving back about .5% after the bank of japan's quantitative easing plans, pretty much flecting a buy the rumor, sell the fact move. now, house republicans plan to bring their tax bill to a floor vote today. this as tensions over the white house over the fiscal cliff have started to rise. it's unclear what the bill, known as plan b, will look like. house speaker john boehner has reportedly added spending cuts to convince members it will be worth the vote. president obama has threatened to veto the bill. the president says he's puzzled by what's holding up budget talkes and that house republicans should stop trying to score a point against him. >> take the deal. you know, they will be able to claim that they have worked with me over the last
. they are considering plans to phase-out the atomic energy altogether over the next several decades. spain, a flower in the face. it is the annual flower fight using eggs and firecrackers and flour. and it is a day marking the innocence, spain's equivalence of april fool's. it is this fox trip around the world in 80 seconds. >>> a french constitutional panel is saying goodbye to that country's staggering 75% tax rate on the wealthy. the panel has ruled the tax is unconstitutional and unfair. let me say it again. 75% on the wealthy. it was set to kick in at the start of 2013 and will hit anyone hitting a million euros. critics didn't like it. they said it would drive away france's wealthy population. joining me now on the phone from paris is katherine fields. she is a correspondent for global radio news. katherine, why was this tax overturned? >> it was overturned because the court said it failed to rec recognize equality before public burden. what this means is it has been applied to individuals rather than households. the court knows this top rate would have applied to a married couple, for example
to phase-out the atomic energy altogether over the next several decades. spain, a flower in the face. it is the annual flower fight using eggs and firecrackers and flour. and it is a day marking the innocence, spain's equivalence of april fool's. it is this fox trip around the world in 80 seconds. >>> a french constitutional panel is saying goodbye to that country's staggering 75% tax rate on the wealthy. the panel has ruled the tax is unconstitutional and unfair. let me say it again. 75% on the wealthy. it was set to kick in at the start of 2013 and will hit anyone hitting a million euros. critics didn't like it. they said it would drive away france's wealthy population. joining me now on the phone from paris is katherine fields. she is a correspondent for global radio news. katherine, why was this tax overturned? >> it was overturned because the court said it failed to rec recognize equality before public burden. what this means is it has been applied to individuals rather than households. the court knows this top rate would have applied to a married couple, for example, if one mem
. look at what is going on in spain. millions of people taking to the streets. they still call it a recession with 25 percent unemployment in spain, greece. things are getting worse everywhere. the austerity measures, what austerity measures? i got one. make a story. i'll make a bad bet. i don't want to take my losses. of take the money from you, mr. citizen. of tax you more, cat your services. what you do did you will pay more for my note that your pension and benefits. tom: how does all this in? we wind up with pitchforks? >> it's happening now. they don't call it class warfare. that is what is going on over there. again, there is no air spring. there's nothing about a pro-democracy movement. far too few had much too much and way too many head was too little. the people in the street that one piece of the pipe command it's going on around the world. and for some reason people are oblivious to it. look in this country, college graduates, the income is declining eight or 10% since the recession. you can't find a job. 3 percent of them have jobs paying high-school wages. so you'
. among those closed include spain and germany. we're start with asia. shanghai composite is the outperformer. you saw up 1.6% there. here is a list of the markets closed across europe. germany, switzerland, germany and austria. for the bourses that are open, we can take a look at performance this morning and then we'll take a look over at the bond wall. the ftse 100 is down about .4%. ibex down .5%. not a clear picture. definitely mixed trade as people look to close out the year. the bond wall gives the sense for what kind of wall dominates. we're seeing bond yields move higher. investors are exiting the asset class today. italy around the 4.5% level. we've seen these predominant for several weeks and likely a quick check on forrus. the yen, an important one to keep an eye on, as well. dollar/yen firmer, continuing the patterns that we've seen over the last couple of trading sessions. for more on what to expect from markets today, we're joined by chris meyer, managing director and chief strategist from loop capital markets. chris, good morning. we wake up without a deal.
of hijacking the government. >> put us on a very slippery slope towards the plight of greece and spain and others who basically don't have that check. this whole notion of unlimited credit card is just pure poppycock and it's something that only can be dreamed of as a fiscally responsible thing in washington, d.c. >> but, you know, you still have a process and procedure in terms of the budget where the president proposes a budget and congress is playing a much more significant role in that process. when the time at which the idea of, you know, approving the debt ceiling was when congress was playing less of a role in the budget process. congress is far more engaged in that process. so, i don't think this is about going the way of greece or spain as much as it is, you know, people like to hold on to as much power as long as they think they can. >> karen -- >> ken, take a listen to what tom cole said earlier this week on taxes. take a listen to this. >> in my view we all agree that we are not going to raise taxes on people who make less than $250,000. we should take them out of this disc
, higher than many countries in the euro zone including spain, germany, france. yet, the united states of america is able to borrow at the lowest rate in pretty much it's recorded history. so you have a very, very diverse landscape at the moment, but certainly would that could be significantly improved, or worsened by the situation that we have concerning the fiscal cliff, the fiscal deficit, and the debt of the country, three topics that can be addressed now on a comprehensive and efficient fashion. >> so what should this mean? i think i could interpret any given number, to think oh, that means we should not touch taxes for any bracts, because it's as much money as we could have in it, or this means that we need more stimulus to keep the jobs going, or i could look at the debt and say this means we need to cut spending, so what does it mean? what would you, and what globally, what would mean the most for the u.s. to do? >> you know what you said? you would qualify as an economist. on the one hand, on the other hand -- the truth of the matter is that the best way out of this would be a
on the debt ceiling right this menu. when you look at how much we are spending we are similar to spain and greece. it is not a pretty scenario. >> tell me this what happens when we judge up against it? >> everybody starts wondering when we are going to raise the debt ceiling. there's a debate because they don't like to. then you have all of wall street looking at this wondering if we will be able to pay our bills. you remember what happened last time around the market sold off 2,000 points over the 2 month period. it was dramatic and hurt people's 401 k's. if you can't pay your bills you get a downgrade. >> again. >> it's not going to be good news. you know what happens you can't borrow as much money. >> that's what happens to me. >> it costs you more to borrow. all of us coming together it will be -- it could be we would be watching none of this would come to a surprise fell off the market every single day. they know what's happening. they know what's going on. it's not a surprise but nobody likes to see it. >> when they raise the debt ceiling is that to pay off debt already accrued.
in spain, italy, and great britain. ashley: corporate earnings, signs of weakness in the last earnings season. concernedded about that? >> i think that it's cyclical. i think there's been little signs. i think we have to get employment together in the united states. housing is starting to come back. we're -- slowly, but in the north east in particular, there's more demand, and there's less housing inventory, but in the rest of the country, we have to wait and see on that. employment is really, really the key thing, and so what comes out of all the negotiations and how we employee people, infrastructure, and all of that makes a difference. ashley: companies hunkering down, a lot of cash, but not doing in until washington gets the act together. >> means technology, for example, could be a big sector. if companies get signals from washington and go out and invest into hiring people, putting technology online, it could be great, but we're just waiting and waiting and waiting, which is why it's a cliff hanger. ashley: cliff hanger, i'm tired of saying "fiscal cliff. i'll use "cliff hanger."
and spain. our road map starts right where we were months ago, waiting for the 112th congress to agree on a debt reduction package. the senate convenes at 11:00 a.m. >> the dow had its worst day in a month on friday. set to close december with a loss. the question is, does it continue to sell off if there isn't an accord in congress. >> we will always have china. manufacturing pmi data from last night is the best in 21 months. can we finally say the chinese economy has been stabilized. >> but of course, we start in washington. as you know, congress comes back today. the house gaveling into session now with legislative business starting at 10:00 a.m. the senate returns at 11:00 a.m. eastern. there are only a few hours left to get a deal done. eamon? >> you're already hearing people talk the way they talk on new year's day. a lot of people wish they could go back in time and do things differently. that's the way people are talking in washington about this fiscal cliff. feeling as if this thing suddenly got off the rails. take a listen to mitch mcconnell last night talking about the pace
in the likes of portugal, ireland, some even to some degree in spain and greece. and that wouldn't have happened without the pressure in the markets. >> obviously. jim, we want to thank you very much for calling in on this new year's eve and wish you a happy 2013 to you, as well. >> happy new year's to you guys. good luck to you. >> things. >>> coming up, we're going to calm to some politicians and congress people. we have shelly moore-capito and congressman greg meeks of new york will join us on the show to talk about the biggest sticking points. at the top of the hour, vice chairman and republican policy committee chairman tom price will be our special guest. "squawk box" coming right back. this is america. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day after day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical
-max hybrid. impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. >>> welcome back to "hardball." there's a potentially big electoral story developing in pennsylvania that you need to hear about. the state's 20 electoral votes went for president obama this year, of course, as is the case in all but two states. the winner of a state's popular vote takes all its electoral votes. now a republican leader in the state of pennsylvania -- or the commonwealth i should say wants to change the rules of the game. state senate majority leader dominick peg leg give announced he plans to introduce legislation to change how the state allocates its electoral votes. according to mother jones magazine,
exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton remains hospitalized this evening at new york presbyterian hospital. state department spokesperson phillip ray na said that doctors found that clot sunday during a follow-up exam. secretary clinton had fainted and fallen earlier this month as a result of severe dehydration from a stomach flu. she is being treated with anti-co-ing a lantz to resolve the clot which was found in her head. with us to discuss the case, nbc news chief science and health correspondent bob bazell. good to see you, bob. when we talked last night, what you said was we were missing a critical piece of information, which is where is the c
that was in terrible shape to begin with and i think you have a lot of austerity fatigue going on spain, italy, portugal, certainly greece. so you have those economic woes. the euro is not going to thrive and it may survive thanks to the ecb, but you're not going to get that economy to thrive, and the fiscal union ask those are very slow going and though they may be moving quickly by european standards and i've been given the magnitude of the problem going very slowly. >> how should people be thinking about this? the average american, and they've been hearing about it for so long and they're not sure it will affect their pocketbook. do you think they will? >> and there's this incredible chance that greece will leave and the dominos will begin to fall. i think that's unluikely to happen as long as the ecb is willing to support that currency, but will it thrive? will those economies boom? i don't think so, i think it will be another year of recession and you will find individual opportunities and the stock picker's market and far as it's a strong growth, they're not there yet. >> thanks so much
as filibusters, are of ancient origin. it was reported while caesar was in spain, the election of consuls was approaching. applied to the senate for permission to stand a candidate, but they reject the request and prevented his success gaining time with which he spun the debate until it was too late to conclude on anything that day. it's only been around 2064 years. don't believe the left when they say it was created in 1865. byrd would say otherwise. another speaker, norm, glad he's two seats away from me as i quote him, from 2005, said some things about republicans attempt to use nuclear options, options that i agree with. now, let me imp size this is a radical step it's taken. this will require breaking the rules, steam rolling the parliamentarian, and i've been disappointed in the reporting on the issue which tends to ice a kind of gloss and shorthand over matters making it appear as we are appearing to do it with a majority, just not elected to do it before. that's not the case. it's clear in the rules if you challenge a rule on constitutional grounds, that challenge is debatable, an
of a small town in spain christmas came a little early. they have won the bulk of the country's annual christmas lottery that pays out $2.2 billion. it usually goes thousands of winners. the biggest prize was won by residents of this town near madrid. spaniards usually buy tickets to share and share it amongst their friends and family so the joy is spread around. the so-called mayan end of the world prediction has come and gone. i think we're all still here, but tourists have good reason to get a taste of mayan history and culture in cheech knee za, mexico. nick parker gives us a look. >> i'm here in ancient mayan ruins of cheech i neat za where thousands came to mark the end of the world as some said. well, the world didn't end but there are still many, many good reasons to come and visit what has been described as one of the seven wonders of the modern world. chichen itza was one confident largest cities in the em buyer. it stretches out about five square kilometers of ground here in the yucatan. a lot of the architecture is still extremely imposing. it templeal corresponds to the ma
in southeast spain is cleaning up after revelers battled it out with flour, eggs, and -- wait for it -- firecrackers. the annual flour/egg/firecracker fight takes place on december 28 and celebrates spain's equivalent of april fool's day. to recap, that is flour, eggs, and firecrackers. jud . >> do they combine? >> yeah, like bisquick a la requirecrackers. >> some story meetings -- >> maybe next year. >> maybe. we'll see. >> thanks. >>> dylan dreyer has a check of the national forecast. good morning. >> good morning to you guys. yeah, talking about snow in the northeast. rain in the southeast. and right smack dab in the middle of the country, >>> snow will continue coming east. expect your snow chance prior to noon today. after that, it's rain. all the precipitation ending about 3:00 today. take a look because some folks are saying, where's the snow? it's west of us now between now and 9:00. that line will come to the east. we will be getting some snowfall in here, but only for about three or four hours. amounts pretty light. an inch, maybe just over that in montgomery county.
translate. a town in southeast spain is cleaning up after revelers battled it out with flour, eggs, and -- wait for it -- firecrackers. the annual flour/egg/firecracker fight takes place on december 28 and celebrates spain's equivalent of april fool's day. to recap, that is flour, eggs, and firecrackers. jud . >> do they combine? >> yeah, like bisquick a la requirecrackers. >> some story meetings -- >> maybe next year. >> maybe. we'll see. >> thanks. >>> dylan dreyer has a check of the national forecast. good morning. >> good morning to you guys. yeah, talking about snow in the northeast. rain in the southeast. and right smack dab in the middle of the country, it looks nice and sunny. it will be cold. temperatures only in the 20s and 30s. we are looking again at most areas in the northeast around one to three inches. we're not talking about a lot of flag or a lot of wind -- flooding or a lot of wind. southeastern massachusetts will be a jackpot area where we could end up with about six to nine inches of snow. the southeast will see the rain mostly through this morning. it will be h
-x. the gas xperts. impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. >>> my great pleasure to be here with dan savage on what is his wedding day, even though it's not as we are speaking his wedding day. i think, as someone who thinks a lot about politics and proudly a progressive and member to the left and think about social change, the evolution of american public opinion on marriage equality is this north star, right? every time i get down in the dumps about the possibility of change and every victory that is out of grasp, i think about how incredible. here is polling. in 1996, 68% opposed marriage equality. 27% supported. by november 2012, 63% supported, 46% opposed. there's not a lot
and see what's happening in countries like greece and italy and spain and ireland have these massive debt. now we cannot repay them, massive interest-rate increases, you and i have talked about this before. but shame on us for not realizing that we stay on this path, we are in real financial trouble. gregg: stephen moore, economics writer for "the wall street journal." on her way to the fiscal cliff. thank you very much. heather: russian president vladimir putin accused of playing politics with the lives of orphans. signing a bill banning americans from adopting russian children. bad news has left dozens of american families heartbroken. amy kellogg is live in london with details. reporter: heather, one russian activist says that every member of the russian parliament voted for this measure should be obliged to adopt a russian child of his or her own. there are 700,000 russian children who need a home. only 18,000 russian families who signed up to adopt. this new law was named after a russian baby that died in the custody of his american adoptive parents. he was neglected. but it is reall
zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global onomy. is just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. ro price. invest with cfidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. >> i'm robert gray with your fox business brief. t-mobile is finally getting a bite out of apple, adding the tech giant's products to it next year. deutsche telekom didn't mention specific products. ipad and iphone are only products offered. >>> hasbro is latest company moving up payment of its quarterly dividend to avoid higher taxes for shareholders. the dividend payment of 36 cents a share will be sent to shareholders this month instead of next year. >>> general motors is planning to hike prices in india by as much as 3% in the new year. the automaker says the increase is response to escalating input costs and currency fluctuations in the nation. suzuki and hyundai alr
wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipperverage. t. ro price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investmeninformation, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. stuart: all right everybody. let's talk california. it's been another banner year for the formerly golden state. voters approving carbon taxes on business. higher taxes on themselves. and the state overwhelmingly voted for the president in the election. more than 60% of the state voting in favor of president obama for his reelection. let's bring in our next guest. he is chairman of the republican party in california. i'm not being sarcastic but i didn't think the republicans existed in california any longer. you are their chairman, is that correct? >> it is. it was a rough year. stuart: what does 2013 hold in store for california? >> well, actua
? coming from italy and spain. are you concerned at all that it will dig into your maagins? >> i am not. has been around for a long time. % go, you know, it is a lower effervescent sparkling, and it's from italy. i just don't think it's tapping into our market all. i say that because we are up to tremendous this year. cheryl: well said. breaking news coming out of washington. great to have you on the show. happy new year. i want to bring in diane, as we do every 15 minutes. we are getting some news coming out of washington. the dow jones jumping right now. up 70 points right now. >> reporter: that's right. session highs. the dow up 73, nasdaq about 35, the s&p up almost 12 points after seeing it fairly flat, searching for direction all morning. keep in mind, five straight losing sessions for the dow, trying to stave off that losing streak here on hopes of of this bill cliff still coming through, also taking a look at pfizer and bristol-myers today, the fda approving a cholesterol fighting drug from both companies. those are both up. bristol-myers up one and a half%. pfizer up just sligh
power consumption in china, impa wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. ro price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. shibani: breaking news, live pictures from the white house as we wait for president obama to speak in about 15 minutes from now as lawmakers struggle to hammer out a deal on the fiscal cliff. peter barnes believes the president will announce a deal. we will bring you his comments live. it is an early close on the trading day. sandra smith is in the pits where traders are watching every development in washington. she joins us now with today's trade and how commodities are faring. sandra: we just had financial commodities close for the day. the treasury pits just closed minutes ago. it was an interesting close to
as filibusters ancient origin. while caesar was in spain, the election of consoles was approaching. he applied the senate for permission to send a candidate, but cato strongly opposes request attempts to prevent his success by gaining time with which you until it was too late to conclude on anything that day. the filibusters only been around 2064 years since circa 59 b.c. don't believe the left of the falsely claim the filibuster was a mistake in 1805 by aaron burr. the late robert c. byrd would say otherwise. norman ornstein -- from 2005 cents in things about republicans and his nuclear option and judges that i agree with. now let me emphasize this is a radical step. this will require breaking the rules comes steamrolling parliamentarians and i must tell you it's been very disappointed in the reporting of this issue, which tends to use it kind of gloucestershire and other matters: making it appear as if this is some thing at any time can be done by a majority. they just have been elected to do it before. that's not the case. it's clear if each eligible on constitutional grounds the challenge
progressive. impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. >>> good morning. 18 minutes past the hour. welcome back to "starting point." unless congress gets its act together soon, america faces a fall off the fiscal cliff. cnn has just learned democrats are now willing to compromise on the tax threshold. they're now willing to raise taxes on incomes over $450,000 instead of $250,000. while the two sides have called in their so-called closers to work behind the scenes -- vice president biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell -- they're not offering much hope for an 11th hour fix. let's bring in chris, our reporter from the national journal, working the story on capitol
you, when you look the at how much money we're spending compared to our gdp, we're similar to spain, we're similar to greece, it's not a pretty scenario. >> harris: well, tell me this: what actually happens when we nudge up against it? >> well, everybody starts wondering when they're going to rise the debt ceiling, there's big pressure on republicans in congress to approve that. it's a big debate with them because they don't like to and then you have all of wall street looking at this, wondering whether we're going to be able to pay our bills and remember what happened last time around, the markets sold off 2000 points over a two month period. it was very dramatic. and really hurt people's 401(k)'s. >> harris: well, if you can't pay your bills you get a downgrade and we've seen that we could get our credit downgraded. >> again, again, that's the not good news. because you know what happens when you have a low credit rating, you can't borrow as much money. >> harris: that's what happens-- it costs you more to borrow and that's the trouble with that and all this have coming together,
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and france are about to go in recession. when you have a shaky economy, piling on taxes does not work. spain's has been raising taxes. we have not seen anything like this with governments deliberately raising taxes on a scale since the early 1930's. they should be going in the opposite direction. they are putting more burdens on the private economies. host: somebody who may be in your income group wrote an op-ed about a month ago and this is part of it. i want to get your reaction. guest: in terms of income and what people effectively pay in tax rates, people and higher incomes pay effective tax rates three times those earning middle incomes in this country. salaried income versus capital gains gets confused. capital gains are no sure things. it is a high-risk proposition. there has always been a lower rate for capital gains. you would see this economy crater and hope of investment and go by the boards. bill clinton lowered the tax rates. to reverse that trend, that was a bad decade, the 1970 's. we have seen that in other countries. raise the rates and you get less investment and a lower st
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are the poor -- hurt are the poor. 25% unemployment in greece and spain. imagine what the minority unemployment would be if we had a 25% unemployment rate on average in the united states th. we see pensions being cut without any notice hardly at all social programs slashed. -- at all. social programs slashed. there is at least some probability that will happen to us. i will say it is a certainty eventually if we do not do something about the situation. i would think they would be much more sober in their demand. at this them -- at this moment, i do not see it. >> i would say a lot of this is, if we are talking inside the beltway, that is a different conversation. part of the disservice is the debate is having today is it is steering away from what the real issues are, the most depressing issue, i am more optimistic. it is steering the conversation away from that. it is not helping ordinary americans understand what the threat is over a somewhat longer term. i do not think we have 25 years anymore. maybe it is two or five. we get closer and closer every year that we build up our debt and every y
[indiscernible] $750 billion came through and it was more aggressively priced than italy, spain, and portugal. that is where you create economic prosperity. the agencies are doing fantastic stuff but it will not create what we need on that continent. the marginal interventions are not going to create economic growth. we know how to create jobs, so instead of having large subsidy programs, start there. get rid of those programs and we can talk about economic growth. >> you can understand why they are the most prominent voices in the business. >> a look at social media and on line speech. this is half an hour. >> we are going to shift gears a bit. i took my tie off the war earlier this morning. first, there is wifi here. you should log on to the nyu guest account. user name is guest131. password is right there for you. we will talk about the use of social media. it has been on everyone's lips the last couple of years. we have wonderful guests that are known for their engagement with their audience. i predict we are going to hear a little bit of criticism and push back on some of the wisdom of s
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